Can They Beat Us?

Can we really lose to LeBron James and his band of role players (I got physically ill watching Wally drain that 25-footer with 2 minutes left last night) in a Game 7 at the Garden? Put a gun to my head and force me to make decision, I’m going with the Celtics. There’s no denying this has been one ugly series. But I like our guys on our court with our refs. Oops…did I make a reference that the referees have not been impartial? Sorry but I just can’t overlook the discrepancy in fouls called and free throws. LeBron is going to the line more than the entire Celtics team. Perk is getting whistles for breathing on guys in the paint, while Varejao throws his body around with reckless abandon. I realize no one outside of Boston wants to hear our complaints but they’re valid. I love Doc’s quote after the game:

“Tell the refs to do the interview. They were just as important.”

Moving on…I’m still trying to determine if Rajon Rondo actually played last night. Fortunately Eddie House made some shots. The bench play has been poor the last two games. I’m also waiting for the news to break that Leon Powe is banging Doc’s wife, because that’s the only way to justify his lack of minutes recently. I’m running out of negative references for Ray Allen’s play. As for winning Sunday, it doesn’t matter if LeBron goes off for 50, the Celtics only need these two things to happen:

-Someone (Ray, Rondo or Posey) emerge as the 3rd offensive weapon.

-Stay even with Cleveland on the boards.

Today’s Links: Globe – Return Ticket | Garnett Feeling Frustrated | Allen Needs Re-Appearing Act | Charged Up Over Last Minute Call | Herald – Road Block | Cavs Squeezing Life Out of Celts | Rivers Makes House Call | ESPN – Screwball Finish to Screwball Game | Lakers Quiet Jazz | SI.com – Big 3 Logging Big Minutes | Feds Say Donaghy Bet on 100+ Games |

Editor’s Note: I’m flattered that opposing fans frequent Red’s Army. After all, we are the number one Celtics blog. Why waste time with the tumbleweeds on Laker or Cavs blogs when you can play with the big boys.

17 Responses

  1. I think you mean to imply the refs have been “partial.”

    But you can’t place all the blame on them, when it’s such a close game. Yes, fair officiating and we would have won, but make a shot instead of missing ~14 in a row, get 2 at the end of the half instead of giving West a prayer at the buzzer… etc.

    Hey, losing 69-74 is a big step up from 84-108. Now we just need another 99-65 game 7 win.

  2. Doc should be better than that. That call on Pierce was definitely questionable. Perhaps a make-up for when LeBron was fouled with the no-call a bit earlier? I’m not sure.

    I read through the other post and stopped about half way down due to some of the rediculous comments. This game was ugly on both ends. A ton of turnovers, a lot of jumpers.

    I also see the issue with no Leon Powe. Perhaps his ineffectiveness on the road thus far? I think he’s averaging about three points per game on the road as opposed to seven at home – I may be mistaken. The only concern I would have if I were a Celtics fan right now comes down to “identity.”

    I agree that Eddie House’s appearance is long overdue. However, when you run him out there with Allen, Rondo, Posey and Glen Davis, you’re obviously going small. Where’s the room for Powe? I guess if you limit Davis’ minutes, but perhaps Rivers wanted to ride his hot streak off of game 5?

    The identity may be a big thing. If you want to ball with House (and the instant offense he brings), you’re going to have to concede on the glass – 45-37 last night. Sunday will definitely be a huge game. You guys have the history and record in your favor. I can guarantee you that this isn’t Atlanta, but I do know that we have our work cut out for us tomorrow afternoon…

    Best of luck.

  3. The Celtics were the best team all year. In most cases the better team wins in a 7 game series. If the Cavs win then they were the better team in the playoffs bottomline! I am confident they will not. Goodguys 103-89 bet your refinaced or foreclosed house on it.

  4. Lets get some facts correct…

    1. LeBron is the only player who has driven the lane in the series, that’s why he gets to the line…I don’t Dick Bavetta and he are drinking buddies…

    2. Refs did not cost you that game…you guys (KG aside) can’t score points…simple as that…

    3. Laker fans and Cav fans don’t frequent other sites of their own teams, because quite frankly its boring to chat with fans all spewing the same garbage about “their” team…conflict and friction is the only thing that makes these sites fun…

    4. Cavs will win Game 7…I am now convinced…you allowed the sleeping giant that is LeBron to awaken from his slumber…gulp…can’t wait for 3:30 Sunday…remember, the Cavs were in the finals last year and although the C’s were the “best” team this year..the Cavs bring playoff experience to the table…how’s KG’s playoff resume?

    Good luck…and BigMck…you know I always love to flatter you…glad you feel special.

    Go Lakers

  5. […] Can we really lose to LeBron James and his band of role players (I got physically ill watching Wally drain that 25-footer with 2 minutes left last night) in a Game 7 at the Garden? Put a gun to my head and force me to make decision, I’m going with the Celtics. There’s no denying this has been one ugly series. But I like our guys on our court with our refs. Oops…did I make a reference that the referees have been impartial? Sorry but I just can’t overlook the discrepancy in fouls called and free throws. LeBron is going to the line more than the entire Celtics team. (Red’s Army) […]

  6. quite possebly the great line you have ever written I’m still laughing as I’m typing this

    I’m also waiting for the news to break that Leon Powe is banging Doc’s wife, because that’s the only way to justify his lack of minutes recently

  7. I don’t think any of the calls Lebron got in that game were bad, with the exception of the charge (this coming from a Cavs fan). Lebron gets to the line a lot because he attacks the rim, something the Celtics don’t do with any regularity. Maybe Varejao gets away with calls, but Davis and Perkins just aren’t playing good defense.

    And I don’t know if you should be too flattered about other fans coming to this site, I only know about it because you were on Waiting For Next Year

  8. inferno,
    You just don’t get it, do you? If we’re not going to get the call when the Cavs “steal” the ball, how can we stop LeBron’s fastbreak driving? Many of his breakaways should have been whistled dead, Cs ball, sideline out. It’s embarrassing how much leeway the Cavs are getting in Cleveland. Wally S. pushes Ray to the floor and gets credit for hitting an open 3? What a joke.

    What about 9-23, 8 TOs screams “awoken giant”? LeBron shot 3 3s, 20 2s and 15 FTs last night, meaning he was eligible for 64 points if all his shots went, he got 32. We’ll take that again.

    Not to mention that Wally can be the hero after hitting a “crucial” three at the end of the game. But maybe the game wouldn’t have been close if he’d hit more then 1-10 before that shot? He and West are playing well, for them, to show up the team that traded them, but that won’t last.

    I’m not sure what West, and Wally have to offer in playoff experience… for that matter, how’s Gasol’s working out? Ready for his great vanishing act? Chandler will drink his milkshake.

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  10. That’s hilarious. That’s gotta be the only reason we didn’t see Leon last night. Why not play Leon, especially with Perk and Baby with 5 each? That’s such an easy call.

    I like Doc a lot but I gotta side with his critics about his poor rotations. Critical guys fall in and out of his rotation at the drop of a hat. I know he’s supposed to ride a guy until his wheels fall off, but you gotta be able to look back over the course of a season and remember what a guy has done for you. I think Leon would have been that spark in the paint last night.

  11. i think ray allen (and paul pierce at the beginning of the series) not shooting well has sort of over shadowed the inconsistency off the bench. i would argue the three most productive players off the bench for us this year were posey, house, and powe. until last night, house was missing. posey has not been contributing his usual 8 to 10 points, and powe has been put in some weird rotation with big baby and pj brown. baby and pj have had “big” games for us in the past, but in last night’s game where the bigs where getting hacked and not getting calls, i think powe is the most likely to get fouled and make the basket anyways, even if he doesn’t get the call.

    for the celtics to win game 7, at least convincingly, i think these three need to show up (maybe cassell could do the job for eddie. maybe). ray allen not scoring hurts, but garnett, pierce, and rondo can carry the scoring for the first team.

  12. I think you mean to imply the refs have been “partial.”

    You are right-on William.I fixed the post.Thanks.

  13. Hmmm…After reading your retort William, clearly YOU are the one who doesn’t understand…”awaken the sleeping giant” refers to the fact that you guys can’t close the deal and LeBron (although his stats were all over the place) was THE force to be wreckoned with last night…he attacked the rim relentlessly, played defense well for him and started to show that if he’s on all cylinders the C’s have NOTHING to defend him with…And I think your missing the bigger picture…I don’t think for a minute the Cavs are better, but the C’s are a mess right now and Sunday will be trouble…
    Wally’s horrid, but timely shooting is all the more reason the Celts should have been up by 10 down the stretch, but guess what…you guys shot even worse…
    And one final word on the refs…I know that some of you have been watching basketball long enough to know that in games where the offense is fluid and there is an aura of artistry about the game…then the calls might be different…in games as lousy and CBA as that debacle last night…you got the calls you deserved…
    Make a goddam shot Green and White. As I’ve said before I want to see C’s v. Lakers, but this is awful basketball.

  14. Oh and William…I’m not sure what your problem with Gasol is…but I’ll take 17p 13r and 7a every night in that line-up and we’ll win any series in 6…if he does more we’ll win quicker…see round 1…

    I think you’d agree you’d sell your milkshake and yer momma for Ray’s line to read that well…

    Wally gives the revenge factor and West gives them obvious athletic ability that the C’s don’t possess…the rest have playoff experience…

  15. If they lose tommoro, Doc should be fired. No doubt about it his silly rotations in the playoffs have cost them dearly. Last night we saw Eddie House for the first time, he contributed nicely, Glenn Davis will be a good player in time, but not now and not in the most important situations, where is Leon Powe. Lebron is killing our defense so where in the world is Tony Allen. Doc I blame you most of all for being in this situation and I pray for the best tommoro but you need to get better at coaching in playoffs like you did in the regular season, if not theres the door.

  16. inferno,
    You’re right, we’re a mess right now. A victory today and we get four more games (at least, though Detroit will probably take us to seven) to figure it out.

    No, I wouldn’t sell my milkshake or my mom to see Ray find himself. If it’s going to happen then it will just take time. Time that he’ll have if we win today.

  17. if you DO manage to get past cleveland, detroit’s waiting for you so they can beat the living shit out of you guys. Detroit doesnt take it easy on lightweights

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